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Wednesday, September 29, 2010

FamilySearch – Out With the Old and In With the New…Please, I Hope Not!

There has been a lot of hype lately about FamilySearch Beta.  I, however, have stuck with Records Search Pilot and the “old” FHL card catalog for several reasons, but simply put, Beta is more cumbersome to use.  For all intents a purposes, Beta is supposed to be a mirror image in terms of data (not the interface), but there are some exceptions (see my previous post, A Little FamilySearch Experiment, which includes a link to a similar post written by Randy Seaver.).  I would imagine that someday Beta will be the only tool available and this scares me…a lot!  This post explains some of the concerns I have with Beta when compared to Pilot and the “old” catalog.

Databases & Record Images

Filter Options

This is probably the biggest complaint I have with Beta in terms of databases/records…the lack of filter options currently available in Pilot.  Sure, there is slightly better search control in Beta, now being able to specify a specific event with a date and +/- option, but the Beta search is still limited.

Example 1:  The Option to Filter by Role – Let’s say I wanted to search for the death certificate for John Smith (d. after 1930) in the database Ohio Deaths, 1908-1953.  Beta returns over 10 thousand records.  Even with a death year of 1940 +/- 10, there are still over 8,000 results.  Sure I can add more search criteria, but you never know what is actually recorded on the record (e.g., was the father’s name recorded correctly, or recorded at all?).  In Pilot, I was able to choose the Role, (in this database the choices are Principal or Other).  By choosing Principal, I eliminate all the records where John Smith is the father or spouse of the deceased, leaving me with only those records where John Smith is the deceased person.  I can’t do this in Beta, and it makes sorting through a huge number of results a tedious task.

Example 2:  The Option to Filter by Gender – Many times I’ve run across unnamed babies among my relatives in the Cook County birth records.  If I cannot find the certificate/register by the given name and surname in Pilot, I do a search on the surname, and usually add one or both parent given names.  Common names still return a number of results, but let’s say I’m specifically looking for a female.  In Pilot I could chose Female from the Gender filter, which usually makes sorting through the results more manageable.

I almost always choose a specific database to search in, so the results displayed are narrowed down to that collection.  But if I were to search all of the collections at once, I prefer the way the filters for Record Type and Collection are displayed in Pilot (drop-down menu) versus Beta (incredibly long list in sidebar).

Screenshot of Pilot’s Filter Interface
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Screenshot of Beta’s Filter Interface
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Search Screen

While some of the filters in Pilot can be accommodated in the Beta search options, I personally think the search layout in Beta is poor when compared to Pilot.  In Pilot, the Advanced Search screen is all within the monitor view (unless you have a really tiny monitor, and even then, it'll fit pretty nicely without excessive scrolling).  In Beta, the Advanced Search screen requires you to scroll (albeit it not too much, but if you are paying attention, you may not notice there are more fields available)  Below is what the main Advanced Search screen for a specific collection looks like in both Pilot and Beta (the entire window has been captured on a 17” display).

Screenshot of Pilot’s Advanced Search Screen
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Screenshot of Beta’s Advanced Search Screen
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Granted, there are more fields in Beta than Pilot, simply because each event now has its own field(s) for criteria, whereas in Pilot, you could only select one event.  In this sense, Beta wins.  You’ll notice however, that the layout for Pilot could easily accommodate those additional fields that would remain visible without the need to scroll.

But the worst of the search is when you want to “refine” the search.  In Pilot, you would click on the Refine Search button, and the search window would pop up.  In Beta, there is no need to click a button, because the search fields now make up the top portion of the sidebar (which already includes a huge list of record types and collections, mentioned earlier).  I prefer the pop-up window over having to scroll or tab to see the rest of the fields.  (Can you tell I’m not a big fan of excessive scrolling?)  Also, you can access the Refine Search window no matter what view you are in (list of records view, selected record data view, or image view).  In Beta, you would have to use your browser’s Back button at least once to get back to the list view.

Screenshot of Pilot’s Refine Search (Advanced) Screen
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Screenshot of Beta’s Search Results Screen Where a Refinement Can Be Made (Advanced)
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Also note that the only way you can choose an exact match in Beta, is to display the Advanced Search, both on the main search screen and the “refine” search on the results screen.

FHL Card Catalog

Then there’s the FHL card catalog.  A wonderful tool that let’s us know all of their holdings, what’s on film that we can order to our local FHC, and effectively plan a research trip to SLC.  When I first started to use the catalog, I’ll admit I struggled.  But then I read a tutorial on how to use it, and I was able to use it with ease moving forward.  A few months ago the catalog was down for some reason so I headed over to Beta, knowing the the catalog was there as well.  It was up and running, which was good, but it nearly brought me to tears!

I was working on my Oakland County, Michigan families, so in Beta I selected Place Name and entered Oakland, just as I would have in the “old” catalog.  I was presented with a list of 47 matches, well knowing that there were probably more than 47 matches for Oakland County, Michigan, let alone any matches for Oakland, California.  I then see on the sidebar a way to narrow the results.  I proceed to click on North America, then United States, only to find choices for California and New Jersey…Michigan was not a choice. 

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I sat there dumbfounded for a minute.  Then I tried “Oakland county” as the search criteria (no quotes), and this time, Michigan was listed as an option.  Good, I thought, making progress.  But it just went downhill from there.  The search narrowed down to Michigan, yielded 269 results, in no particular order.  I scrolled halfway down the page to the Category section of the sidebar to narrow it down further, based on what I was looking for.  To make a long story short, the categories differed from those I was accustomed to in the “old” catalog.  Once you find the main topic, you get more topics, and sometimes more after that.  You really have to stop and think, what main category would this one thing be under?

It’s not as intuitive as you may thing.  For example, let’s say I wanted to see what they had on the topic of cemeteries.  In the “old” catalog, I would have done my place search, navigated to Oakland County, Michigan, and then look for the topic “Cemeteries” in the alphabetical listing.  In Beta, I would have to figure out that cemeteries is a sub-category under the main category of “Birth, Marriage & Death.”

Another example would be divorce records.  I would look for divorce records under the same name in the “old” catalog.  In Beta, when presented with all the main categories, I chose “Court, Land, Wills & Financial” since divorce is handled in the courts.  Nothing there…perhaps they don’t have any records.  But knowing that they do hold a book on this topic in this area, I proceeded to drop down other main categories and found it under “Birth, Marriage & Death,” then “Vital Records.”  Okay, I suppose I could buy that, but I don’t agree with it (or perhaps there is a flaw in my logic).

Additionally, you can really get lost between all the items on the sidebar (I’d illustrate it, but it’s so crazy and requires so much scrolling, I can’t provide a screenshot).  I’m a pretty technical and logical person, but this sidebar with all the options had me totally screwed up.  What’s worse, is that I couldn't find what I was looking for even though I already knew it was there (I needed a film number that I forgot to note for a source).  Imagine what would happen if I were looking for sources in general.  Not finding something would lead me to believe they don’t have it…but what if they really do and I’m so tangled up in the criteria that I don’t ever see it?  This is by far the worse search experiences I’ve ever had.  Plain and simple…I refuse to use Beta for the catalog…I just pray they keep the “old” one, or do a major overhaul to Beta.

Overall Opinion

Personally, I think FamilySearch has done a great service by providing these records online at no cost.  I understand that they want one site where everything is accessible at one time, however, I feel that the Beta interface is not up to par compared to the “older” tools as discussed above.  I will continue to use the Pilot and the FHL catalog until such a time (if there comes a time) when they are no longer available.  If additional changes are not made to Beta upon such a time, then I will not be a happy camper when it is the only tool available for use.  Search results will be tedious to comb through and it will take longer for me to find what I’m looking for, both of which do not make me a happy researcher.

So in the “competition” between Pilot/FHL Catalog and Beta, BETA LOSES!  Instead, how about out with the new and in with the old?


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A Little FamilySearch Experiment

Taking a hint from Randy Seaver in his recent post, FamilySearch Beta Fail? Lack of Patience? Success!, I decided to do a little experiment with the FamilySearch sites.

Like Randy, I too have been sticking with the Records Search Pilot as opposed to FamilySearch Beta.  I had almost forgotten why, until I visited the Beta site today to run my little experiment.  I was going to share with you in this post why I prefer Pilot over Beta, but it was getting a little long, so instead, I will create a separate post. 

In Randy’s post he mentions that he was not able to retrieve an image in the Pilot site, even though it should have been there.  So he headed over to Beta, and after some creative approaches, was able to find the image of the record.

Several months ago, I had come across a few Ohio death certificates (database, Ohio Deaths, 1908-1953) where I would get the message:  The image is currently unavailable.  Please try again later.  So a few weeks later, I tried again, only to get the same message.  Mind you, not all of the images were unavailable (at the time it was two out of six that I searched for).  Yesterday, I was working on some different Ohio folks, and again, in some cases received the message I had seen in the past.  They were added to the list of the other two so I could go back at some point and “try again later.”  A few months ago, I had the image problem with most of the Michigan databases, but after a few days, they were all available.

After reading Randy’s post, I got to wondering if these images were available in Beta.  Wouldn’t you know, four out of five images were found (one had the following message in place of the image:  Image not available online).  So a big thanks to Randy for his blog post and putting the idea in my head.  Although I’m not thrilled with Beta, I guess I’m going to have to use it in these types of situations for now.


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Wednesday, September 15, 2010

Upcoming Genealogy Events in Illinois

There are several genealogy events coming up in the Land of Lincoln.  Here is a listing of just some of those events.


~~FEATURED EVENT~~

Illinois State Genealogical Society Fall Conference
When:  October 23, 2010
Where:  Peoria
Details:  Attend this year’s conference to hear wonderful presentation on a variety of genealogy topics, network with other genealogists, and visit an array of exhibits.  Featured guest speaker is Curt B. Witcher, of FGS and the Allen County Public Library.  This year’s conference will also feature a Youth Workshop for children 12 to 15 years of age.  Refer to the conference flyer/registration form for more information.


Elgin Genealogical Society – Immigration From Germany
When:
  September 16, 2010
Where:  Elgin
Details:  Uraula C. Krause will be the speaker.  Visit the EGS website for more information.


South Suburban (Chicago) Genealogical Society – German Genealogy
When:
  September 18, 2010
Where:  Hazel Crest
Details:  Uraula C. Krause will be the speaker.  Visit the SSGS website for more information.


McLean County Genealogical Society – Local History and Genealogy Collections Tour (Bloomington Public Library)
When:
  September 21, 2010
Where:  Bloomington
Details:  Karen Moen will be the speaker.  Visit the MCGS website for more information.


Kane County Genealogical Society – Genealogy Organization:  Comparison of Styles
When:  September 23, 2010
Where:  Geneva
Details:  Linda Farroh Eder and Susan Lye will be the speakers.  Visit the KCGS website for more information.


Fox Valley Genealogical Society Fall ConferenceAncestor Research:  A Fresh Look at Classic Techniques
When:  September 25, 2010
Where:  Naperville
Details:  D. Joshua Taylor, of NEHGS, is the featured speaker for the 17th annual conference. Topics include:  Finding the Roots of Your Family Legends, On and Off the Net, Successful Searching Online, and Vanity Sketches: Sources and Truths Behind Mugbook Entries.  Visit the FVGS website for more information.


Chicago Genealogical Society – City Cemetery Walking Tour
When:
  October 2, 2010
Where:  Visit the CGS website for specifics.
Details:  Pamela Bannos will be the speaker.  Visit the CGS website for more information.


Elgin Genealogical Society – DNA
When:
  October 5, 2010
Where:  Elgin
Details:  Karen Fugate will be the speaker.  Visit the EGS website for more information.


Tazewell County Genealogical Society – Harvest Days for Genealogists Annual Workshop
When:
  October 9, 2010
Where:  Pekin
Details:  Jeffrey Bockman will be the speaker.  Visit the TCGS website for more information.


South Suburban (Chicago) Genealogical Society – Footnote.com
When:
  October 9, 2010
Where:  Hazel Crest
Details:  Caron Primas Brennan will be the speaker.  Visit the SSGS website for more information.


Lake County Genealogical Society – He Took Her Name: Understanding German Farm Names
When:
  October 12, 2010
Where:  Mundelein
Details:  Teresa Steinkamp McMillin will be the speaker.  Visit the LCGS website for more information.


Genealogy Society of Southern Illinois – 2010 Annual Fall Conference & Book Fair: Getting Your Research Into Shape
When:
  October 16, 2010
Where:  Carterville
Details:  Ann Carter Fleming will be the speaker.  Visit the conference website for more information.


DuPage County Genealogical Society – American Geographical Society Maps
When:
  October 20, 2010
Where:  Wheaton
Details:  Jovanka Ristic will be the speaker.  Visit the DCGS website for more information.


Elgin Genealogical Society – Footnote.com
When:
  October 21, 2010
Where:  Elgin
Details:  Caron Primas Brennan will be the speaker.  Visit the EGS website for more information.


Kane County Genealogical Society – Getting Over Brick Walls 
When:  October 28, 2010
Where:  Geneva
Details:  Visit the KCGS website for more information.


Elgin Genealogical Society – Researching Scottish Ancestors
When:
  November 2, 2010
Where:  Elgin
Details:  Maureen Brady will be the speaker.  Visit the EGS website for more information.


Chicago Genealogical Society – Before You Croak
When:
  November 6, 2010
Where:  Chicago
Details:  Ted Bartlett  will be the speaker.  Visit the CGS website for more information.


Tazewell County Genealogical Society – History of Lakeside Cemetery
When:
  November 9, 2010
Where:  Pekin
Details:  Tom Matheny will be the speaker.  Visit the TCGS website for more information.


South Suburban (Chicago) Genealogical Society – History of St. James Church, Sauk Village
When:
  November 13, 2010
Where:  Hazel Crest
Details:  Fr. Conde will be the speaker.  Visit the SSGS website for more information.


Lake County Genealogical Society – 18th Annual Genealogical Workshop: Midwest Melting Pot and More
When:
  November 13, 2010
Where:  Mundelein
Details:  D. Joshua Taylor, MLS and Dan Niemiec will be the speakers.  Visit the LCGS website for more information.


Elgin Genealogical Society – Census
When:
  November 18, 2010
Where:  Elgin
Details:  Ann L. Wells will be the speaker.  Visit the EGS website for more information.


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Sunday, September 12, 2010

Weekly Finds - My Diigo Bookmarks (weekly)


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Saturday, September 11, 2010

Who Knew a Visitation Register Could Be So Helpful

I am fortunate to have many family artifacts upon which much of my initial research is based.  There are two visitation registers in my possession: one for my great-grandfather, George Rottman, and one for my great-grandfather, John Ward McMahon.  When I initially found them I entered relevant family information in my database, such as the residence recorded for visitors.  The past few weeks have been spent fixing sources throughout my database, which sometimes has forced me back to the original source at which point I re-analyze it.  This is where my story begins.

Today I revisited the register for John War McMahon’s visitation for when he died in 1962.  There are pages of names and addresses of those who attended.  Years ago when I first reviewed it, there were many names I didn’t recognize.  Given the addresses of some, I concluded they were neighbors.  But there were still many unknowns that remained.

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In the meantime, I went on doing my research using a variety of sources.  This led to the discovery of a “half” family I had no idea existed.  My third great-grandmother, Margaret RYAN, had been married prior to her union to my third great-grandfather, Timothy McMahon.  From her first marriage, at least two daughters were born: Mary and Margaret Murnane.  The only evidence (which is what I originally found that tipped me off to this half family) is the 1880  census for Margaret (Ryan) McMahon.  [1]  I did not believe it to be shaky evidence despite the fact that her husband, Timothy, was not listed in the censushousehold (nor have I been able to find him anywhere in the 1880 census).  There was Margaret, with sons Timothy and John, all of the right age and birth location.  But there under the two sons were two daughters, Mary and Margaret Murnane.

So I began to research these half-siblings and, long story short, learned that a friend from high school descended from Margaret’s union with the unknown Murnane making us cousins.  Obituaries for Timothy J McMahon, son of Timothy and Margaret (Ryan) McMahon, tied him to his “sisters” Mary (Murnane) Franklin and Margaret (Murnane) King.  Margaret King’s obituary tied her to “sister” Elizabeth (McMahon) Francoeur, a daughter of Margaret and Timothy McMahon.  I was pretty satisfied with the research completed to date, keeping in mind that most of it had been completed almost two years ago.

franklin Back to today and John Ward McMahon’s visitation register.  (John is the son of Timothy J. McMahon, who is the son of Timothy and Margaret (Ryan) (Murnane) condon-curranMcMahon.)  As I was combing through all the names in the register, one stuck out at me.  It was F J Franklin.  Having not looked at this particular family for awhile, I was surprise that it caught my attention.  So I headed to my database to see if there was an F J Franklin tied to Mary (Murnane) Franklin (aunt to John Ward McMahon).  I found Francis J Franklin and was pretty sure they’re one in the same.  As I continued to go through the names, two other names stuck out:  Mr. and Mrs. H L Condon and Beatrice Curran, right next to one another.  These are daughters of Margaret (Murnane) King (also aunt to John Ward McMahon).

Knowing that these three people attended the visitation for my great-grandfather further establishes proof of the relationship between the half families.  It also shows that even though I knew nothing of the half family, they evidentially intermingled at least until 1962 when John Ward McMahon died.

As I continued to examine more names, I found two in a row that had “(Grafton)” written to the side; a third followed that had “(Mary Grafton)” written to the side.  So off I went to my database to graftonlook at my Graftons, and sure enough there they were.  This family is related through John Ward McMahon’s wife’s side of the family.  Again, these names were foreign to me when I looked at the register years ago.  This is another family group that was researched with traditional sources and further supported today by the register.

I’m glad I took another look at this artifact.  Sure it gave me more clues about particular family members, such as where they were living and that there with alive in 1962.  But more importantly, the register further proved connections to two other families, which were initially found through basic research and typical sources.  This basically solidifies my confidence that I know what I’m doing when it comes to genealogy research.  Hallelujah!!  I must be doing something right!

Sources

1. 1880 U.S. census population schedule, Chicago, Cook County, Illinois, enumeration district (ED) 96, p. 23, dwelling 129, family 295, Margaret McMahon; digital images, Ancestry (www.ancestry.com : accessed December 17, 2008); citing National Archives and Records Administration microfilm T9, roll 192.


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Saturday in the Attic – 09/11/10

This week’s find is a War Ration book issued to my great-grandfather, George Rottman.  Based on an interesting article I found, WWII War Ration Books at Genealogy Today, I guess this one, being Book Four, was issued toward the end of 1943.  Below are scanned images of the front, back, and some of the stamps.


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Friday, September 10, 2010

Rottman Letter, 23 November 1943

A continuation of letters written by my great-grandfather, George Rottman.  The letters were written to his children while he was away from home visiting family in Iowa and Wisconsin in the 1940s.

This letter was written on 23 November 1943 to Marge (Rottman) Comerford.  A transcription follows the images.

    


Lisbon Ia
Nov 23-43

Dear Marge and all,

Received your letter also books and knee pad and stamps thanks for same I dont wear it all the time as it seems to draw or something.  My knee is better to-day and yesterday so maybe it is good for awhile now.  I got a pair of knee warmers so you dont have to get any.  You must of had quite a party on Shirley would of liked to of been there  I got a letter from Ed and when he lets me know when he is comming I will get there some way.  I dont think the Buses will be too crowded where you get a seat and hold it all the way there.  Well Mabel and Alma had an argument and Mabel left so Rose and I are here alone again.  I have to do some of the cooking or at least watch it and dish up sometimes  I killed a rooster this A.M. so Rose is putting it on to cook now 1:30 P.M. it ought to get done in time for supper.  We have plenty of eggs to eat.  Fishing is out altho we have some yet they are froze.  Ducks are all gone and its no good rabbit hunting till it snows.  I got a squirrel the other day.  Clarence and Donald are husking corn down to Lee Pickets.  I have been doing the chores all except milking and the chickens.  Lots of water to pump but they have a gas engine on the pump and I start it when it starts which is when it feels like it.  The other morning I cranked and cranked till I got tired then went in the house and sat down read part of a paper went out and just came up on the crank once and away it went.  Thats the way it acts  He is going to put in an ele[c]tric motor when he gets around to it and gets things lined up. Vina has been worse the last 3 days.  She keeps Rose busy washing pads and changing her she messes all over the bed like an infant  So I do quite a bit in the house Alma dosnt do anything down here.  I have enough reading matter to last me quite a while as I dont get long to read at a time only at night then I go to bed early.  Well I guess this is all I can think of this time so will close hoping to hear from you soon and see you soon too

Love to all

Dad

Transcribed by Julie Marie CAHILL Tarr, 24 August 2008.


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Thursday, September 9, 2010

Rottman Letter, 6 October 1943

A continuation of letters written by my great-grandfather, George Rottman.  The letters were written to his children while he was away from home visiting family in Iowa and Wisconsin in the 1940s.

By October 1943, George is back in Lisbon, Iowa, visiting family.  In this letter he discusses the failing health of some of the family members.  The letter was written to Marge (Rottman) Comerford.  A transcription follows the images.

 


Lisbon Ia
Oct 6-43

Dear Marge and all,

Received your letter and was glad to hear from you.   "How R U cummin" I am cummin fine."  Hope you the same.  My toe doesnt bother me any more.  My arm bothers me some-times Its too bad about Louie he always spoke to me whenever we met.  Yes I am still catching fish got 1-6 lbs 1-5 lbs 1-1 ½ lbs this morning.  Rose and I have fish twice a day thats about all there is to eat and bread and butter  It was too wet and cold for potatoes.  Kill a chicken now and then.  But we get by.  I set the table and put the thing away after we eat. but dont help with the dishes.  Its so hard for Rose to get around.  She hangs on chairs table or anything that's handy when she walks.  She and Ethel dont want me to leave they dont know how she can get along without someone with her Alma and Clarence are also good  Alma washed my clothes Clarence got me a carton of cigarettes and gives me hooks and suckers and use his good pole and line and real and mixes some doe balls for bait so you can see I can't just say I am going back to Chi[cago] and get a job. Alma brings the Daily Gazette down for me to read every night and we have a radio in the kitchen so I get all the news and listen to all the programs I did in Chi[cago].  Alma and Clarence stay down here about 6 nights a week since Mabel is gone Ethel and Geo come one night a week.  Sis [Anna (Rottman) Hoag] is not able to stay up nights.  She and Jake are in Wheaton now they went last Friday.  Jakes sister Carry DeWolf is dying or dead by now I guess.  There Sis is talking about having some kind of operation before she comes back.  I guess you know we have electric lights.  Vina is failing slow but sure.  She sleeps mostly in the days and is awake at night.  She's afraid of night thinking she will die before morning as soon as daylight comes she goes to sleep for an hr or less at a time.  We had supper at 6:30 and Rose is still in there feeding her and it is 8:00 oclock now.  They have a regular hospital bed for her and another bed in there so they get a little sleep some nights.  I go to bed about 9 or 9:30.  I wrote to Dick so he would get it the day he got the milk check but havnt got any word from him yet.  Told him I needed the money.  But they both are the lousy dirty skunks I ever met.  They even Jipp each other and the kids are the same way.  Well I guess I answered all you asked me in your letter.  I hop[e] Shirley is all well again and also Marge.  It seems like Hammans just live for their girls.  They have no other time for any thing else.  Well I think this is all for this time hoping to hear from you soon  Love to all

Dad

Thank[s] for the $

The hens are starting to lay eggs for breakfast to-morrow fish for dinner and more fish for supper.  Laur aught to be here.  Tell Hello to Laurs Ma and Mike and Delos for me

Transcribed by Julie Marie CAHILL Tarr, 24 August 2008.


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Wednesday, September 8, 2010

Rottman Letter, 17 December 1942

A continuation of letters written by my great-grandfather, George Rottman.  The letters were written to his children while he was away from home visiting family in Iowa and Wisconsin in the 1940s.

George sent this letter about a week before Christmas in 1942.  It was written to Marge (Rottman) Comerford, her husband Lawrence, and baby daughter Shirley.  A transcription follows the images.


Wild Rose Wis
Dec 17-42

Dear Marge Laur & Shirley Ann

Received your letter and was glad to hear from you.  I am well hope you all are the same.  I got a card from Mabel with a buck in it.  I just ans it  I also got a letter from Ed, Marie, Marge, and Geo.  So it keeps me busy writing and buying postage stamps Ha. Ha.  Ed sent me air mail stamps 2 of them so I used one on his letter and put one on Mabels as I only had one 3 cent stamp left untill I get to town  It still keeps snowing up here it is about a foot deep now.  Dick [Richard Rottman?] finaly bought a farm for $4,000.  Its a nice place not far from a lake and 2 1/2 miles to Wild Rose  Well I will make this letter sort as I will tell you all when I see you.  I expect to come in the day before Christmas if I am not snowed in.  So will ring off untill then

Love to all

Dad

Transcribed by Julie Marie CAHILL Tarr, 24 August 2008.


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Tuesday, September 7, 2010

Rottman Letter, 20 November 1942

A continuation of letters written by my great-grandfather, George Rottman.  The letters were written to his children while he was away from home visiting family in Iowa and Wisconsin in the 1940s.

This letter is dated 20 November 1942.  It was written to Marge (Rottman) and Lawrence Comerford just after their baby was born.  Unlike the previous three letters, this one (and the next) are sent from Wild Rose, Wisconsin.  I’m not sure what brought George to Wisconsin.  A transcription follows the images.


Wild Rose Wis
Nov 20-42

Dear Marge & Turk

Received Turks letter and was glad to hear from you.  Glad to hear you have your baby and both are all right.  So now you can quit worrying so much.  Don't worry about Turk or the flat while you are in the hispital  They will get along O.K.  You just think about yourself and the baby.  Well we are helping our neighbor get up wood for the winter  Then he will help us get up our wood we are burning both coal and some wood now.  It hasnt been cold enough all week to start a fire in the heater yesterday I worked in my short sleeves it was foggy all day.  To date we have got 3 Rabbits and 2 squirrels.  There are lots of ducks but always too far out in the lake to shoot at and then we cant hunt right anyway because we havnt any license or duck stamps.  I guess we have to be here 6 months before we can get a resident liscense [sic].  Dick [Richard Rottman?] hasnt bought a farm yet.  We have 2 in view.  One is a regular rich [?] farm but he died and it must be sold to clear up the estate.  The buildings and iron fence around the 110 acres alone must of cost at least 15,000.00 dollars.  There is a small private lake on the place and only about 2 blocks from Pine River which is a wonderful trout and other fish stream.  They are asking 5,500.00 for it.  But I think it can be bought for 5 grand.  But you cant tell we might get something entirely different  The[y] change mind so often.  And then sometimes I change it for them.  Well I wrote a long letter to Ed the same time I wrote you before but have not heard from him as yet.  I would like to come down for Thanksgiving but I don't think I can.  There is going to be a bunch come up here so I will be down for the Christmas holidays.  I hope we have some snow by then so I can get some rabbits we only hunt on our place but there are plenty of game on the place.  Well I will close for this time hoping you and the baby are doing well and Marie and Harold and the rest are all the same  Love to all and say Hello to the baby

Your Loving Dad

Wild Rose
Rout #2 - Box 90     Wis

Transcribed by Julie Marie CAHILL Tarr, 24 August 2008.


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Monday, September 6, 2010

Rottman Letter, 4 July 1940

A continuation of letters written by my great-grandfather, George Rottman.  The letters were written to his children while he was away from home visiting family in Iowa and Wisconsin in the 1940s.

Although this year is not indicated in the letter, I am pretty sure it was written in 1940, same as the two previous letters of June 1940.  A transcription follows the images.


Lisbon Ia
4th of July A.M.

Dear Children

Just a few lines in ans to receipt of your letter glad to hear from you.  We are all well.  The reason I am writing is to let Ed know the fish are biting much better now.  I caught one catfish 17 in one 13 and 2 white perch down on that gravel sand bar But I cant go at the right time.  Like to-day I have to wait for Sis [Anna] and Jake [Hoag] well we will get down there about 10 oColock [sic] then I will wait till after dinner so you see the best fishing time is gone There seems to be a lot of bass chasing numerous on the gravel bar but I havnt caught any yet dont use the right tactics I guess well there isnt much new out here and I want to mail this on the way down home so you will get it Sat so if Ed wants to come out I think he can get some fishing.

With Love to all

Dad

Transcribed by Julie Marie CAHILL Tarr, 24 August 2008.


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Sunday, September 5, 2010

Rottman Letter, 3 June 1940

A continuation of letters written by my great-grandfather, George Rottman.  The letters were written to his children while he was away from home visiting family in Iowa and Wisconsin in the 1940s.

This letter was postmarked 3 June 1940 from Lisbon, Iowa.  It was sent to Marge Rottman in Chicago.  The letter was written to Marge Rottman, Ed Rottman, Marie (Rottman) Miller, and Harold Miller.  A transcription follows the images.


Lisbon Ia
Sunday.

Dear Marge Ed Marie & Harold

Just a few lines to let you know I got here O.K. at 1:00 P.M.  No trouble of any kind.  They were glad I came.  Sis has got a new car but cant drive yet.  I havnt even been in the car yet as I only got here.  The folks are comming up for dinner to-day, also Geo & Ethel [Coster].  The garden is nice so are the schrubs.  They are mostly in bloom  Jake [Hoag] has got things pretty clear.  I am going to start on the Garage tomorrow.  Then the next is a Door in the kitchen where a window was  I am telling them what I am going to-do and how I am going to do it. and they seem to agree with me whole heartedly.  Sis says go ahead and do what you think best.  So that makes more pleasant conditions to work under.  And I have to take time out to learn Sis to drive as she is not alowed to drive at all without there is a licensed drive with her.  Clarence drove the car Decoration Day  They have only driven it about 14 miles.  Clarance says this fish are not biting at all.  So I don't suppos[e] I will go fishing untill next Sat  Well this is about all I have to tell you at this time.  So will close hoping to hear from you soon

Love to all

Dad

Box 223

Transcribed by Julie Marie CAHILL Tarr, 24 August 2008.


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Saturday, September 4, 2010

Rottman Letter, Circa June 1940

Over the next several days I will be featuring letters written by my great-grandfather, George Rottman.  The letters were written to his children while he was away from home visiting family in Iowa and Wisconsin in the 1940s.

Although this first letter is not dated, I am pretty sure it was written about June 1940 (he mentions a sale that ends July 3rd; he also mentions an upcoming wedding, which is likely his daughter Marge’s that took place on 22 July 1940).  The letter was written to Marge Rottman, Marie (Rottman) Miller, Ed Rottman, and Harold Miller.  A transcription follows the images.


Lisbon, Ia
Friday

Dear Marge[,] Marie & Ed & Harold

Received your letter glad to hear from you.  Well I am getting along O.K.  It will take me 3 or 4 weeks more to do what they want done.  I got the Basement done except build some shelves.  I got to put the water system in yet so they can get sistern water in the basement and cut in a door in the Kitchen Build a porch and shingle a roof about 30 x 10 ft.  I put a celotex ceiling on the Basement today.  Well I was fishing Wednesday afternoon caught 2 small bullheads.  They first wont bite.  You can use worms now.  I was fishing one day last week with night crawlers I caught 1 Bullhead 1 small carp and a fair sized white perch I am going to get some crawlers to-night and go fishing tomorrow there is a lot of them in our yard.  Since the ice went out up to now nobody has caught any fish so Ed can use his own judgement.  for myself Ill take Niffersuck Creek.  I dont know what the fare is out here but there is a train leaves Chi[cago] at around 11:30 P.M. and gets here in time for breakfast 615 A.M  The only train that stops here.  I will be home in time for the wedding.  I want to get a new suit of close.  I seen a dandy suit in the Rapids for $17.50 Ill have to buy a new tire too one of mine went flooie Sunday.  Monkey Ward have them advertized for 5.75 until July 3 so Ill have to put the B on sis.  I only got one leaky spare.  Well you didnt ans my last letter so see if you can find time and tell me some news  I havent written to Mabel for a long time so Ill have to drop her a line.  Clarence and the bunch are back from their fishing trip.  They got a lot of fish, we have some yet.  Well I will close for this time.

Love to all

Dad

Transcribed by Julie Marie CAHILL Tarr 24 August 2008.


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Thursday, September 2, 2010

A Busy Bee

You may have noticed that I haven’t posted anything (except the weekly Diigo posts, which are automatic).  I have been quite busy the last several weeks and thought I’d take a few minutes to tell you what I’ve been up to.

Indexing for the DAR’s GRC project, which will provide an every-name index to the DAR books.  I completed two books over the last few weeks and am in the middle of a third.

DAR chapter responsibilities, which included producing the chapter yearbook, mailing dues notices, and my treasurer duties.

Illinois State Genealogical Society (ISGS) board responsibilities, which included prepping for and attending four meetings last weekend and completing the minutes for those four meetings.

Last week I completed a bid on a genealogy job that I am really excited about…fingers crossed!

My own research has been somewhat neglected over the last few weeks with all of the other things going on.  But I have managed to do a little and even got an hour at the Illinois Archives in between my ISGS meetings last weekend (only a few death certificates collected were for me, the others were for a client, and one was for Wendy).

In terms of my own genealogy, the biggest thing I’ve been working on is updating and correcting the sources in my database.  It will be a long tedious task, but I’ve already made great headway.  Look for a post on this soon.

That’s all for now…back to the grind!


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